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Postby jayquam » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:45 am

does anyone know of a good rpg that doesnt have magic in it?
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:52 am

Knight of the old republic is all i can thing but they still have the force.
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Postby Kkun » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:56 am

Can I just point out the hilarity that someone is concerned about magic in an RPG but is quoting the Boondocks in their signature?

Is that funny to anyone else? Anyone? Oh, it must just be me.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:03 am

Umm...I...don't think one exists. XD Well, other than KOTOR, but...uh...hahahah, yeah. XD
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Postby TheMelodyMaker » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:15 am

Yes. It's called The Traveller's Guide. ^_^
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Postby Myoti » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:32 am

Sigma Star Saga for GBA is the first thing that comes to mind, mostly due to it's more sci-fi nature. The Megaman Battle Network series doesn't technically have any either, and I think Wild Arms is exempt as well (though I haven't played).

Can I just point out the hilarity that someone is concerned about magic in an RPG but is quoting the Boondocks in their signature?

Is that funny to anyone else? Anyone? Oh, it must just be me.

Actually, yes, I was thinking the same thing.
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:38 am

Kkun wrote:Can I just point out the hilarity that someone is concerned about magic in an RPG but is quoting the Boondocks in their signature?

Is that funny to anyone else? Anyone? Oh, it must just be me.



I didn't even notice that HAHAAHAHA
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Postby Mega.EXE » Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:17 am

Myoti wrote:Sigma Star Saga for GBA is the first thing that comes to mind, mostly due to it's more sci-fi nature. The Megaman Battle Network series doesn't technically have any either, and I think Wild Arms is exempt as well (though I haven't played).


Actually, yes, I was thinking the same thing.


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Postby Tommy » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:42 pm

Mario RPGs......

Megaman X Command Comission....

ect, ect.

Kkun, I also find that funny but people can get offended by magic and not racial slurs.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:54 pm

Okay guys, let's cut out with the Boondock-bashing okay? Let's not point stuff out like that. He wants to avoid magic in RPGs, that's fine. He likes the Boondocks, okay that's fine too. Maybe he's somebody that relates to the show.
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Postby Nate » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:24 pm

Wild ARMs has magic.

Mega Man X Command Mission is a good, solid RPG with no magic. Other than that and the Battle Network series you're not gonna find an RPG that doesn't have magic in it.
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Postby Tommy » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:40 pm

Nate, the Mario RPGs lack magic.

And I already said Megaman X Command Mission.
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Postby Nate » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:42 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:Nate, the Mario RPGs lack magic.

Kamek is a Magikoopa. Mario and Luigi shoot fireballs and lightning.

Yes, the Mario RPGs have magic.
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Postby Tommy » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:59 pm

kaemmerite wrote:Kamek is a Magikoopa.


I don't know what the means but it's going in my sig. Saying that out loud gave me a good laugh.

Anyways, which stem of Mario games is this? I was thinking of the Paper Ones specifically. I don't recall those ones having magic.

If you're talking about Super Star Saga and/or Partners in Time, I just would like to point out I highly disliked those games enough to progress to the point where you learn magic.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:02 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:Anyways, which stem of Mario games is this? I was thinking of the Paper Ones specifically. I don't recall those ones having magic.


No, those had magic, too. Remember Kammy Koopa? Also, I guess some of the Stars' attacks could be considered magical in nature.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:03 pm

Tom... You refer to the Mario RPG series without including... Mario RPG (SNES)

I have no response to that... Except... Nope, no response...
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Postby Nate » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:04 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:I don't know what the means but it's going in my sig.

Um...Kamek is a Magikoopa?

A Magikoopa (カ]I was thinking of the Paper Ones specifically. I don't recall those ones having magic.[/QUOTE]
The first game involves collecting talking stars, which goes into the magical. The second is rife with magic, involving a door with a magical seal to imprison a great evil. The Mario games are by their nature full of magic, so they would be disqualified.
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Postby Photosoph » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:13 pm

The only other thing I can think of would be perhaps that turn-based, tactical combat games might be something you'd enjoy. I know they're not RPGs, but you can get some of these (or at least two that I know of: Advance Wars and its sequel) with as far as I can tell, don't contain any magic. They're not RPGs, but perhaps you might enjoy the tactical, turn-based combat genre.
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Postby jayquam » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:32 pm

Kkun wrote:Can I just point out the hilarity that someone is concerned about magic in an RPG but is quoting the Boondocks in their signature?

Is that funny to anyone else? Anyone? Oh, it must just be me.

HEY,the boondocks is good reading,as long as you dont watch the show.
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Postby Steve Racer » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:32 pm

There's plenty of Sci Fi RPGs like Paranoia and some Palladium universes.

If you are interested, I did write an article about how it is okay for Christians to play D&D, here it is:

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Postby jayquam » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:35 pm

thanks all
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Postby Bobtheduck » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:20 pm

Steve Racer wrote:There's plenty of Sci Fi RPGs like Paranoia and some Palladium universes.

If you are interested, I did write an article about how it is okay for Christians to play D&D, here it is:

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Postby uc pseudonym » Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:13 pm

That's an issue we probably shouldn't discuss in detail, as I can't imagine it not getting into difficult theological water.

kaemmerite wrote:The Mario games are by their nature full of magic, so they would be disqualified.

However, I think they might qualify under certain circumstances. In most of the games (the excellent Seven Stars excepted) the player never uses magic, just physical techniques. Some people who object to the use of magic in games don't mind if the villains use it.
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Postby Omega Amen » Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:10 pm

If you have an Xbox 360, I suggest you wait until Mass Effect comes out next year. That is a Sci-Fi RPG made by Bioware (fantastic RPG developers). From what I have seen so far, it is pure Sci-Fi with space and aliens but no magic.

It does use a First-Person Shooter gameplay mechanic, which is atypical for RPGs. That mechanic may or may not appeal to you.
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Postby jon_jinn » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:51 pm

Pokemon...XD (i don't think it's magic but you guys might)
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Postby Myoti » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:33 am

However, I think they might qualify under certain circumstances. In most of the games (the excellent Seven Stars excepted) the player never uses magic, just physical techniques. Some people who object to the use of magic in games don't mind if the villains use it.

Except that they use "magic" in everyone of the games.
Paper Mario? "Magic" Star attacks and magical characters. Mario and Luigi? Fire and lightning hand attacks.

Of course, it's not as though these were meant to be "occultic" in nature or the like, but "magic" is there (in pretty much every Mario game in general).
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Postby Tommy » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:29 am

Bobtheduck wrote:Tom... You refer to the Mario RPG series without including... Mario RPG (SNES)

I have no response to that... Except... Nope, no response...


Well, that has magic, doesn't it?

I've played it and I know by far it's the best one but I knew beforehand it had magic.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:06 pm

It was just that you referred to the category as if the best game in it didn't exist. Presumably all is well with your clarification.

Myoti wrote:Except that they use "magic" in everyone of the games.
Paper Mario? "Magic" Star attacks and magical characters. Mario and Luigi? Fire and lightning hand attacks.

Of course, it's not as though these were meant to be "occultic" in nature or the like, but "magic" is there (in pretty much every Mario game in general).

Amazing what slips the mind in time. I completely forgot about the Hand attacks from Mario and Luigi (likely because I wasn't fond of them). As for the Paper Mario Stars, those strike me as non-traditional enough that some people might not be bothered by them. Fairly obviously that varies from person to person.

And you could just play without using the magic, if that soothes your conscience...
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Postby Rocketshipper » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:09 pm

The Xenogears and Xenosaga games don't have magic. All of the "magical" type atacks used by characters are actually caused by nanomachines or something like that.
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Postby Ryupower » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:45 pm

wellll.....games like Maplestory have little magic in them, and that only by wizards and stuff....

A few (free even) MMORPG's. That's all I can think of. There was one about Pirates I saw the other day....I guess that won't have magic-
I used to be very strict of such things, but Maplestory was OK IMO, because magic isn't a requirement. And they don't have these magic spell things for non-wizards...

Then there's also another MMORPG called "there" which doesn't have levels tho, it's purely social...sorta like the "sims" mmorpg
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